QJ1

Issue Details

Issue Number

QJ1

Issue Type

J: Jacket Patch

Category

Lodge Reject/Unofficial

Description

No description for this issue

Year Issued

1991 

Quantity

12 

Material

Felt

Backing Type

Unknown 

Issue Shape

Circle 

Border Type

C  

Border Color

BLK  

Background Color

BLU  

Lettering Color

 

FDL/BSA Color

 

Manufacturer

Unknown

PatchScan URL

Unknown

Color Count (PS)

Unknown

Coverage (PS)

Unknown

Size in mm

Unknown

Restrictions

No restrictions on this issue

Annotations

WWW
HMVE

Designed by

Andrew Stevens

History

There is somewhat of a lack of clarity regarding this issue. It is clear that this issue must be a Q. As I strive for accuracy I will lay out the information as I am aware of it and as always you may decide what you want to collect.

Andrew Stevens reports that he hand painted 12 of these on felt in 1991. At that time he turned them over to the lodge to be issued to new Founder's Award members. It is confirmed from a second source, David Stutts, that he acquired one of these from a local founder's award recipient. Therefore we can conclude that yes some of these were through some method received by local founder's award recipients.

In regards to the question as to whether these were "approved" by the LEC or Key 3 there is no evidence either way. If 12 were produced, given to the lodge, and then all issued to lodge members this issue should be considered a Q. This is in accordance with Patchvault guidance. Patchvault advises all listings of 25 or less total quantity to be listed as a Q. In the past we have used Q to designate council issued OA memorabilia that was not approved by the LEC or Key 3. If these were issued by lodge leadership at a banquet, which is unclear, then I would say that is tacit approval.

The lodge only issues 2 founder's awards each year, so 12 patches would have been a six year supply. [Unless founder's award quantities issued was different in the 1990s]. My understanding, though exactly which sources remain unclear in my memory, is that some of the patches, amount unknown, were returned to Andrew Stevens when the lodge decided not to continue issuing them.

There is some unclear information regarding this issue. At least three collectors outside the lodge have this issue. My understanding is that none of them acquired them directly from 296 lodge members who were given them when they received their founder's award. This to me muddies the waters as to what this issue should be designated at. I think there is a strong argument for it to be considered a private issue. I list private issues as a Q so therefore this would be listed as a Q either due to quantity or due to it being a private issue.

Revision History

There have been 2 revisions. Last change was update on 03 Sep 2026 by Larry-Wallace Lane

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